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Qwen3.8 Flash Next

A lightweight model variant within Alibaba's Qwen3 series, designed for efficient inference scenarios. It supports community quantization and local deployment.

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Oct 29

The main model of the architecture used by Qwen4 has 125B parameters, activates only 6B per token, uses a MoE architecture, contains 512 experts, and has a native context of 262K.

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Oct 29

The license for Qwen3.8 Flash Next is the Qwen Community Model License rather than Apache 2.0, and the terms need to be confirmed before commercial use.

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Oct 29

When Qwen3.8 Flash Next is deployed locally, latency increases by only 6% with 64G of memory; when compressed to 24G it uses only 6G of VRAM, with latency steady at 9.1 milliseconds.

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Oct 29

The Ngram table of Qwen3.8 Flash Next is a separate 47.7G file, larger than the 10G that is activated.

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Oct 29

Qwen3.8 Flash Next has reached 3.63 million downloads on Hugging Face.

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Oct 19

Tested on a machine with an AMD 9700 + 32GB of VRAM + 64GB of memory, the model can run a 56K context.

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Oct 19

The quantized Coder model deployed with this approach has limited text generation quality and is suitable for low-cost experimentation or as a free token source for agents.

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Oct 12

According to benchmark data from Hugging Face, the IQ3_S tier scores an average of 93.26, close to the full-precision base model's score of 93.12.

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Oct 7

Qwen3.8 Flash Next has 125B total parameters, activates only approximately 6B per token, supports a native context of 260,000 tokens expandable to 1 million, and its training cost is reportedly only one-ninth that of the previous generation.

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Oct 5

Qianwen officially placed Qwen3.8 Flash Next into a subscription plan to sell API access externally, while the 27B version has not yet been sold separately.

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The approximately 20:1 ratio between Qwen3 Next Flash's 125 billion total parameters and 6 billion activated parameters represents a fairly aggressive sparsity design.

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In an RTX 5070 (12GB VRAM) configuration, the local Qwen3 9B model's output speed reached approximately 70–76 tokens/second.

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The benchmark results of Qwen3.8 Flash Next are official Qwen data and have yet to be independently verified by third parties.

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Qwen3.8 Flash Next is equipped with an independent Ngram embedding system that adds approximately 51 billion additional parameters; these parameters do not participate in regular forward propagation and are activated only upon specific pattern matches

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Qwen3.8 Flash Next supports two structured output modes: function calling and constrained generation.

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The license for Qwen3.8 Flash Next is the Qwen Community Model License rather than Apache 2.0, and the terms need to be confirmed before commercial use.

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The main model of the architecture used by Qwen4 has 125B parameters, activates only 6B per token, uses a MoE architecture, contains 512 experts, and has a native context of 262K.

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Qwen3.8 Flash Next has reached 3.63 million downloads on Hugging Face.

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The Ngram table of Qwen3.8 Flash Next is a separate 47.7G file, larger than the 10G that is activated.

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When Qwen3.8 Flash Next is deployed locally, latency increases by only 6% with 64G of memory; when compressed to 24G it uses only 6G of VRAM, with latency steady at 9.1 milliseconds.

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Tested on a machine with an AMD 9700 + 32GB of VRAM + 64GB of memory, the model can run a 56K context.

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The quantized Coder model deployed with this approach has limited text generation quality and is suitable for low-cost experimentation or as a free token source for agents.

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According to benchmark data from Hugging Face, the IQ3_S tier scores an average of 93.26, close to the full-precision base model's score of 93.12.

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Qwen3.8 Flash Next has 125B total parameters, activates only approximately 6B per token, supports a native context of 260,000 tokens expandable to 1 million, and its training cost is reportedly only one-ninth that of the previous generation.

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Strata enables a single GPU with 12 GB of VRAM to smoothly run Qwen3.8 Flash Next, a large model with 125 billion activated parameters and an overall size of 176B.

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When extending the context from 192,000 to 256,000, the expert cache dropped from 16.44 GB to 13.66 GB and KV increased from 4.31 GB to 7 GB, with almost zero speed cost, because KV is fully in VRAM and the expert cache automatically balances.

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On a single RX 7900 XTX 24G GPU, the Strata engine can fully run the approximately 125B-parameter Qwen3.8 Flash Next MoE model, supporting both text inference and image recognition.

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Actual testing of two quantization models: IQ2_XXS achieves 48 tokens/s for short Q&A and 63 tokens/s for long text; IQ3_XXS achieves 30 tokens/s for short Q&A and 39 tokens/s for long text, with VRAM usage of approximately 16.44 GB, activating 10,138 experts—IQ2 is about 60% faster than IQ3.

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Strata is an open-source inference runtime capable of running the 125-billion-parameter Qwen3.8 Flash Next model on an RTX 5070 (12 GB VRAM) at an output speed of approximately 90 tokens per second.

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In Qwen3.8 Flash Next, each layer has a router that selects 10 active experts out of 512, plus one shared expert that always runs.

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